Pro Life vs Pro Choice

[Natalia1974]

I was baptized a Catholic and I am not in any way an activist. But, having stated that...

 

I am quite concerned about losing my freedom of choice. I am also worried supporting a woman's right to choose is a sin.

 

I was sure abortion was considered a sin in the bible and then I saw this

 

Hosea 9:14.

 

Give them, O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb (an abortion) and dry breasts.

 

And later,

Hosea 9:16

 

...yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

 

What is the meaning of this statement in the Bible? Can someone give me clarification.

 

If you have an answer for the above question then please provide your thoughts on whether having an abortion is a God granted freedom of personal choice? Or is this breaking God's commandment of murder?

[sandramoten]

I was baptized a Catholic and I am not in any way an activist. But, having stated that...

 

I am quite concerned about losing my freedom of choice. I am also worried supporting a woman's right to choose is a sin.

 

I was sure abortion was considered a sin in the bible and then I saw this

 

Hosea 9:14.

 

Give them, O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb (an abortion) and dry breasts.

 

And later,

Hosea 9:16

 

...yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

 

What is the meaning of this statement in the Bible? Can someone give me clarification.

 

If you have an answer for the above question then please provide your thoughts on whether having an abortion is a God granted freedom of personal choice? Or is this breaking God's commandment of murder?

 

 

 

hello, if you will turn to Psalms 141:5 Is. 53:4 and 2Pet 2:3 it will guide you in part of your answer God was telling them that had disobeyed (smite,smitten) will be stripped of their fruits and labour. the bible quotes

 

Hosea 9:16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

 

Hosea was one of the early prophets, Hosea used his own marital experience as a symbolic representation of God and Israel: God being the husband, Israel being the wife. Hosea's wife left him to go with other men; Israel left the Lord to go with other gods. Hosea searched for his wife, found her, and brought her back; God would not abandon the Israelites but brought them back even thugh they had forsaken him. The book of Hosea was a severe warning to the northern kindgom against the idolatry being practiced there; it was dramatic call to repentance. Christians see in this book a call to the church not to forsake the lord Jesus.

 

If you have any other questions I surely will try to search for answers.

[msantos]

I was baptized a Catholic and I am not in any way an activist. But, having stated that...

 

I am quite concerned about losing my freedom of choice. I am also worried supporting a woman's right to choose is a sin.

 

I was sure abortion was considered a sin in the bible and then I saw this

 

Hosea 9:14.

 

Give them, O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb (an abortion) and dry breasts.

 

And later,

Hosea 9:16

 

...yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

 

What is the meaning of this statement in the Bible? Can someone give me clarification.

 

If you have an answer for the above question then please provide your thoughts on whether having an abortion is a God granted freedom of personal choice? Or is this breaking God's commandment of murder?

 

 

I am also a baptized Catholic but didn't really practice the faith as much as I should have. When I was younger ( a teenager) I believed and practice pro-choice because of some sad circumstances on my life. I have since repented and I am now pro-life. Beleive it or not when I was about to get married I confessed this to our priest and can you beleive he forgave us? I am sure God did too but I will sin no more; therefore I am pro-life now!

[Guest Maus]

This is not just a religious issue. It is a humane issue. A fetus feels pain when salt burns the skin.

 

LEGISLATURE OF NEBRASKA

ONE HUNDRED FIRST LEGISLATURE

SECOND SESSION

LEGISLATIVE BILL 1103

 

24 Sec. 3. The Legislature makes the following findings:

25 (1) At least by twenty weeks after fertilization there

1 child has the physical

2 structures necessary to experience pain;

3 (2) There is substantial evidence that, by twenty weeks

4 after fertilization, unborn children seek to evade certain stimuli

5 in a manner which in an infant or an adult would be interpreted as

6 a response to pain;

7 (3) Anesthesia is routinely administered to unborn

8 children who have developed twenty weeks or more past fertilization

9 who undergo prenatal surgery;

10 (4) Even before twenty weeks after fertilization, unborn

11 children have been observed to exhibit hormonal stress responses to

12 painful stimuli. Such responses were reduced when pain medication

13 was administered directly to such unborn children; and

14 (5) It is the purpose of the State of Nebraska to assert

15 a compelling state interest in protecting the lives of unborn

16 children from the stage at which substantial medical evidence

17 indicates that they are capable of feeling pain.

18 Sec. 4. (1) Except in the case of a medical emergency

19 which prevents compliance with this section, no abortion shall be

20 performed or induced or be attempted to be performed or induced

21 unless the physician performing or inducing it has first made

22 a determination of the probable postfertilization age of the

23 unborn child or relied upon such a determination made by another

24 physician. In making such a determination, a physician shall

25 make such inquiries of the woman and perform or cause to be

1 performed such medical examinations and tests as a reasonably

2 prudent physician, knowledgeable about the case and the medical

3 conditions involved, would consider necessary to perform in making

4 an accurate diagnosis with respect to postfertilization age.

5 (2) Failure by any physician to conform to any

6 requirement of this section constitutes unprofessional conduct

7 pursuant to section 38-2021.

 

8 Sec. 5. No person shall perform or induce or attempt

9 to perform or induce an abortion upon a woman when it has been

10 determined, by the physician performing or inducing the abortion

11 or by another physician upon whose determination that physician

12 relies, that the probable postfertilization age of the woman’s

13 unborn child is twenty or more weeks unless, in reasonable medical

14 judgment (1) she has a condition which so complicates her medical

15 condition as to necessitate the abortion of her pregnancy to

16 avert her death or to avert serious risk of substantial and

17 irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function or (2)

18 it is necessary to preserve the life of an unborn child. No such

19 condition shall be deemed to exist if it is based on a claim or

20 diagnosis that the woman will engage in conduct which would result

21 in her death or in substantial and irreversible physical impairment

22 of a major bodily function. In such a case, the physician shall

23 terminate the pregnancy in the manner which, in reasonable medical

24 judgment, provides the best opportunity for the unborn child to

25 survive, unless, in reasonable medical judgment, termination of the

pregnancy in that manner would pose a greater 1 risk either of the

2 death of the pregnant woman or of the substantial and irreversible

3 physical impairment of a major bodily function of the woman than

4 would another available method. No such greater risk shall be

5 deemed to exist if it is based on a claim or diagnosis that the

6 woman will engage in conduct which would result in her death or in

7 substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily

8 function.

9 Sec. 6. (1) Any physician who performs or induces or

10 attempts to perform or induce an abortion shall report to the

11 Department of Health and Human Services, on a schedule and

12 in accordance with forms and rules and regulations adopted and

13 promulgated by the department:

14 (a) If a determination of probable postfertilization age

15 was made, the probable postfertilization age determined and the

16 method and basis of the determination;

17 ( If a determination of probable postfertilization age

18 was not made, the basis of the determination that a medical

19 emergency existed;

20 © If the probable postfertilization age was determined

21 to be twenty or more weeks, the basis of the determination that

22 the pregnant woman had a condition which so complicated her medical

23 condition as to necessitate the abortion of her pregnancy to avert

24 her death or to avert serious risk of substantial and irreversible

25 physical impairment of a major bodily function, or the basis of

the determination that it was necessary to 1 preserve the life of an

2 unborn child; and

3 (d) The method used for the abortion and, in the case

4 of an abortion performed when the probable postfertilization age

5 was determined to be twenty or more weeks, whether the method

6 of abortion used was one that, in reasonable medical judgment,

7 provided the best opportunity for the unborn child to survive or,

8 if such a method was not used, the basis of the determination

9 that termination of the pregnancy in that manner would pose a

10 greater risk either of the death of the pregnant woman or of the

11 substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily

12 function of the woman than would other available methods.