Guest Adnan Darwash Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 The West and the Islamists have agendas that may meet or contradict each other. Secular leaders like Saddam, Assad and Gaddafi have imprisoned, tortured and killed Islamists, sometimes with Western help. As a tactic, the fundamentalists accepted Western help to topple secular governments hoping to settle scores with the USraeli-led West on a later date.This is precisely what has happened in Libya where the US ambassador, Christopher Evans was killed on September 11, 2012, the 11th anniversary of 9/11 by no other than Al-Qaeda men. These 'rebels' were financed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, supported by Jordanian, British and French Special-forces on the ground, armed by the CIA and its affiliated agencies, NATO planes were used as their airforce while the US cruise missiles pestered Gaddafi radars and defences. The attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was in retaliation for the role of the CIA and MI-6 in the arrest and handing of Libyan Islamists to Gaddafi where they were imprisoned and torured. The on-going French-led war on Islamists in Mali may trigger an open war between the militant Islamists with their newly found strength and the West, threatening Western interests and nations from Nigeria to Somalia. Ironically, the rebels in Mali use arms supplied to them in Libya by former president of France, N. Sarkozy in order to topple Gaddafi. As long as the Wise Europeans are infected with the chronically short sighted US foreign policy, there will be more ironies, miltary interventions and violence. The US plays a major role in the appointment of key officials in NATO, the European Union and individual European Governments, mainly to serve US interests and ensuring the security of Israel; not necessarily to serve Europe's Vital interests. Adnan Darwash, Iraq Occupation Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Wilbur Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Good thoughts to you Adnan, Wise leaders do what is in the best interest of their people and other nations that are friendly to them. What is difficult is we are in a new age that no longer has geographic boundaries. We have Multinational Corporations and International Organizations at odds with Nation States. This is similar to what are defined as cults competing with Major Religions. The difficulty lies with understanding the medium of protocol to communicate understanding and mediating the interests of all involved parties to the public at large. Much of this communication gets filtered (censored) by those that oppose the idea to speak freely and take clips and sound bytes out of context to their advantage. What I think the disadvantaged need to learn is how to better market their feelings. This can only be done if there are established independent outlets that respect the anonymity and value of the message given. Corporation controlled media outlets cannot be trusted to not bias the message. Resistant movement organizations that control media outlets cannot be trusted either. The only way to do this now to properly communicate is through marketing the message through internet and trusted non biased media outlets. I think you are a great example of an individual that understands what it takes to get the message to the masses. If you know some respected outlets, please share. If we as individuals can get past the anger and objectively reveal the problem to the opposition. There is a chance that some in power will see the wisdom of changing direction in the desire of peace. I know that as an American who has a passion for International History and Theology that I someday wish to visit the Middle East and have an open discourse about spiritual truths. For now I am confined to reading books, watching videos, and having discourse through the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adnan Darwash Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The ground in the M.E. grows religious and political weeds as well as useful fruits and crops. The M.E. that produced the three great religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam is currently infested with tribes fighting each other and practice cruelty and violence that predated Moses, Jesus and Mohammed. For example, the message of Moses "Though shall not kill" has been converted by his followers into a campaign of assassination with impunity. The followers of Jesus wage perpetual wars throughout the world disregarding his message of "love and forgiveness". And the followers of Mohammed, the lord of "equality between all people" and who recognized Moses and Jesus as holy profits, justify killing Muslims, Christians and Jews after labeling them as infidels. Naturally, there are good Jews. Christians and Muslims, but they are becoming an extinct breed. In the short term, things don't look good and killings by sophisticated machines or by primitive means will continue for the foreseeable future. What a waste! After investing so much on education and culture the world went to produce ruthless killers like, Catholic Hitler, Jewish Sharon, Muslim Saddam or Protestant G.W. Bush. Adnan Darwash, Iraq Occupation Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Wilbur Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I agree that world leaders should not take advantage of people's faiths to gain their political agenda. During the Fifth Crusade Francis of Assisi (We call him Saint Francis) sat down with Sultan Al-Malik al-Kamel and discussed with him the Muslim and Christian faiths. Both men tried to convert the other. In the end the two parted friends. To this date Franciscans are respected in many Islamic nations. They are in Syria today. http://www.francisca...g/index.php/en/ We need more emissaries of all cultures coming together similar, but separate from the United Nations or Economic Summits. Politics and monetary policy would not be discussed and are left at each members respective homelands. The feeling of national pride and the spirit of comrade would similar to the World Cup and the Olympics but, different that it would not based on competition. There would be no expected outcomes of peace. But, rather a dialogue of Universal tolerances and cultural understandings that can be taken to each participants homeland. Some discussion should be on the future of our children. We need to figure out what they will be doing when machines and software replace our jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adnan Darwash Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like talking to a wall! When highly-educated and moderate Dr Khatemi of Iran suggested a dialogue between civilisations, the US labelled his country Iran as member of the "Axis of Evil". The Iranians stayed away from Khatemi and went to vote for Ahmefinejad. Similarly, Yasser Arafat called for a just peace, but he was poisoned, his PLO was undermined and the Palestinians went to vote for Hamas. To whom should you talk these days while Western Democracies are manipulated by greedy cartels promoting wars, sanctions and hatred between nations. It is like the Jewish Rabbi who prayed for peace for 40 years infront of the wailing wall. When asked whether God has answered in prayers, he said " No, it was like talking to a wall." Adnan Darwash, Iraq Occupation Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thaqalain Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 The World After Ahmedinejad will be in hands of GA Haddad (Steelman) The World after AHMEDINEJAD will be in hands of Gholam-Ali Haddad-Adel, Haddad-Adel's daughter married Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran.[1][2] This has led to the popular belief that he is amon...g the very trusted and backed allies of Ayatollah Khamenei.[2] There is a widespread belief among Iranian that he is addicted to opium though he has denied it repeatedly. http://en.wikipedia....Ali_Haddad-Adel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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