Human Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Now this worries me cause I take 1.5mgs of folic acid a day. Never a dull moment. lol ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...eandHealth/home LESLIE BECK From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Read Bio | Latest Columns August 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM EDT If you take vitamin B supplements to guard against heart disease you are wasting your money, research published in today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests. A clinical trial involving 3,096 patients with established heart disease revealed the vitamins were ineffective against heart attack, death from heart disease and stroke. The notion that B vitamins ward off heart disease stems from the fact that three B vitamins - folic acid, B6 and B12 - lower blood homocysteine, an amino acid made by the body during normal metabolism. High homocysteine is thought to damage the lining of the arteries. Studies have demonstrated the ability of homocysteine to cause oxidative stress and inflammation, as well as to impair blood clotting and blood vessel function. The level of homocysteine in your bloodstream is influenced by diet and genetics. Folic acid, B6 and B12 break down homocysteine and prevent it from accumulating in the bloodstream. Numerous studies have shown that taking folic acid supplements, either alone or in combination with B6 and B12, lowers homocysteine levels. In today's study, researchers from Norway set out to determine whether lowering homocysteine could prevent further heart attacks and heart problems in people with coronary heart disease. Patients were assigned to receive a daily supplement of either folic acid plus vitamins B6 and B12; folic acid plus vitamin B12; vitamin B6 alone; or a placebo. The doses of vitamins used were 0.8 milligrams of folic acid, 0.4 milligrams of B12 and 40 milligrams of B6. Patients were monitored to determine the rates of all-cause death, stroke, heart attack and hospitalization for unstable angina among the four groups. (Unstable angina is severe chest pain that occurs when the heart becomes starved for oxygen.) After three years of follow-up, none of the B vitamin combinations lowered the risk of heart attack, stroke or death despite an overall 30-per-cent reduction in blood homocysteine levels. This isn't the first time the value of B vitamins for preventing or delaying heart problems has been challenged. Earlier this year, the women's antioxidant and folic acid cardiovascular study, a randomized controlled trial involving 5,442 women at high risk for heart disease, found that B vitamins did not lower the risk of cardiovascular events (such as heart attack, stroke and coronary artery bypass surgery) even though the women's homocysteine levels dropped significantly. The findings suggest that lowering homocysteine does not change the course of heart disease. Instead, elevated homocysteine may signal an increased risk of problems in people who already have heart disease. The effect of long-term folic acid supplementation on the risk of heart disease in healthy people is unknown. It is possible, however, that B vitamins help prevent stroke. In the study, there was a lower risk of suffering a stroke among B vitamin users, but this finding was not statistically significant, which means it could have been a chance finding. There is other evidence that folic acid guards against stroke. The mandatory addition of folic acid to certain foods (white flour, enriched pasta, enriched corn meal), implemented in Canada and the United States in 1998, has been linked with a pronounced decline in death from stroke in both countries. Fortification of food with folic acid was introduced to reduce the risk of neural tube birth defects in infants (when the brain and spinal cord fail to close properly during the early weeks of pregnancy.) Since it began, the rate of these defects has dropped 46 per cent in Canada. There are concerns that large doses of folic acid could do more harm than good. Last year, a trial of 1,021 men and women who had had precancerous polyps removed from the colon found that those who took a folic acid supplement (one milligram) got just as many new polyps as those who took placebo pills. People in the folic acid group also had higher rates of advanced tumours, although this finding was not statistically significant. In today's study, the risk of cancer was slightly higher in the group receiving folic acid, but again it was not statistically significant. Together, these findings raise the possibility folic acid may prevent early stages of cancer but could enhance the growth of established cancer cells. For this reason, if you have a history of colon cancer, or precancerous colon polyps, avoid taking high-dose folic acid supplements. While there's little evidence to warrant taking folic acid to protect from heart disease, it is important to increase your intake of folate from foods to help meet your recommended daily intake. (Folate refers to the B vitamin found naturally in foods; folic acid is the synthetic version added to vitamin pills and fortified foods.). Folate is needed to make DNA and red blood cells, support cell division and growth, and prevent neural tube defects. Women of childbearing age should take a multivitamin with folic acid. Adults and teenagers need 400 micrograms (0.4 mg) of folate each day. The recommended intake for children aged 1 to 3 is 150 micrograms; from 4 to 8 years, 200 micrograms; and 9 to 13 years, 300 micrograms. Good food sources include legumes, Brussels sprouts, cooked spinach, asparagus, artichokes, avocados, orange juice and enriched pasta. The safe upper limit for supplemental folic acid is 1,000 micrograms (one milligram) a day, unless directed otherwise by your physician. Taking high doses of folic acid can sometimes mask the presence of a vitamin B12 deficiency. If this condition isn't properly diagnosed, it may lead to irreversible nerve damage. Leslie Beck, a Toronto-based dietitian at the Medcan Clinic, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Now this worries me cause I take 1.5mgs of folic acid a day. Never a dull moment. lol----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...eandHealth/home LESLIE BECK From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Read Bio | Latest Columns August 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM EDT If you take vitamin B supplements to guard against heart disease you are wasting your money, research published in today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests. A clinical trial involving 3,096 patients with established heart disease revealed the vitamins were ineffective against heart attack, death from heart disease and stroke. The notion that B vitamins ward off heart disease stems from the fact that three B vitamins - folic acid, B6 and B12 - lower blood homocysteine, an amino acid made by the body during normal metabolism. High homocysteine is thought to damage the lining of the arteries. Studies have demonstrated the ability of homocysteine to cause oxidative stress and inflammation, as well as to impair blood clotting and blood vessel function. The level of homocysteine in your bloodstream is influenced by diet and genetics. Folic acid, B6 and B12 break down homocysteine and prevent it from accumulating in the bloodstream. Numerous studies have shown that taking folic acid supplements, either alone or in combination with B6 and B12, lowers homocysteine levels. In today's study, researchers from Norway set out to determine whether lowering homocysteine could prevent further heart attacks and heart problems in people with coronary heart disease. Patients were assigned to receive a daily supplement of either folic acid plus vitamins B6 and B12; folic acid plus vitamin B12; vitamin B6 alone; or a placebo. The doses of vitamins used were 0.8 milligrams of folic acid, 0.4 milligrams of B12 and 40 milligrams of B6. Patients were monitored to determine the rates of all-cause death, stroke, heart attack and hospitalization for unstable angina among the four groups. (Unstable angina is severe chest pain that occurs when the heart becomes starved for oxygen.) After three years of follow-up, none of the B vitamin combinations lowered the risk of heart attack, stroke or death despite an overall 30-per-cent reduction in blood homocysteine levels. This isn't the first time the value of B vitamins for preventing or delaying heart problems has been challenged. Earlier this year, the women's antioxidant and folic acid cardiovascular study, a randomized controlled trial involving 5,442 women at high risk for heart disease, found that B vitamins did not lower the risk of cardiovascular events (such as heart attack, stroke and coronary artery bypass surgery) even though the women's homocysteine levels dropped significantly. The findings suggest that lowering homocysteine does not change the course of heart disease. Instead, elevated homocysteine may signal an increased risk of problems in people who already have heart disease. The effect of long-term folic acid supplementation on the risk of heart disease in healthy people is unknown. It is possible, however, that B vitamins help prevent stroke. In the study, there was a lower risk of suffering a stroke among B vitamin users, but this finding was not statistically significant, which means it could have been a chance finding. There is other evidence that folic acid guards against stroke. The mandatory addition of folic acid to certain foods (white flour, enriched pasta, enriched corn meal), implemented in Canada and the United States in 1998, has been linked with a pronounced decline in death from stroke in both countries. Fortification of food with folic acid was introduced to reduce the risk of neural tube birth defects in infants (when the brain and spinal cord fail to close properly during the early weeks of pregnancy.) Since it began, the rate of these defects has dropped 46 per cent in Canada. There are concerns that large doses of folic acid could do more harm than good. Last year, a trial of 1,021 men and women who had had precancerous polyps removed from the colon found that those who took a folic acid supplement (one milligram) got just as many new polyps as those who took placebo pills. People in the folic acid group also had higher rates of advanced tumours, although this finding was not statistically significant. In today's study, the risk of cancer was slightly higher in the group receiving folic acid, but again it was not statistically significant. Together, these findings raise the possibility folic acid may prevent early stages of cancer but could enhance the growth of established cancer cells. For this reason, if you have a history of colon cancer, or precancerous colon polyps, avoid taking high-dose folic acid supplements. While there's little evidence to warrant taking folic acid to protect from heart disease, it is important to increase your intake of folate from foods to help meet your recommended daily intake. (Folate refers to the B vitamin found naturally in foods; folic acid is the synthetic version added to vitamin pills and fortified foods.). Folate is needed to make DNA and red blood cells, support cell division and growth, and prevent neural tube defects. Women of childbearing age should take a multivitamin with folic acid. Adults and teenagers need 400 micrograms (0.4 mg) of folate each day. The recommended intake for children aged 1 to 3 is 150 micrograms; from 4 to 8 years, 200 micrograms; and 9 to 13 years, 300 micrograms. Good food sources include legumes, Brussels sprouts, cooked spinach, asparagus, artichokes, avocados, orange juice and enriched pasta. The safe upper limit for supplemental folic acid is 1,000 micrograms (one milligram) a day, unless directed otherwise by your physician. Taking high doses of folic acid can sometimes mask the presence of a vitamin B12 deficiency. If this condition isn't properly diagnosed, it may lead to irreversible nerve damage. Leslie Beck, a Toronto-based dietitian at the Medcan Clinic, There are so many different opinions of what people should be taking and not taking that at times it is confusing to most people. I take several different vitamins daily, but my doctor wants me to take only a multi purpose vitamin and not all the separate ones that I do. She said that all of them are not needed, and that the one a day will survive. But we can to an agreement I will take all that I do , and she will let me, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hello, my name is Roger Amore. I wanted to share my story, because I feel like their other like myself. Tired all the time and not for sure what to do. Well I am 53 years old and about 5 to 7 years ago. I started to notice that when I sat down for more than about 20 to 30 minute. It seem like I could not stay awake. It really start in Church, the wife would get so embarrassed. Because I could not stay, awake during Church. No matter what I tried, 10 hr sleep or 15 hr sleep, I could not stay awake! Then during the week after a day at work, kids an wife would want me sit down in the evening to watch a movie. Guess what that right I could not stay awake. It was becoming a real problem! Then one day about 7 to 8 months ago, I became unemployed. Therefore, I was really trying to fine away to make some extra money. Then I came across this article about Dr. Alfred Libby M.D, The inventor of TriVita Sublingual B-12, B-6 and Folic Acid. Dr. Libby a well know pioneer in nutrients and health. In addition, an associate of Linus Pauling Ph D. the two- time (Noble Prize Laureate and “Father of Vitamin C.’ Early in his career. Dr Libby discovered the dramatic health changes that B-12 could make, and worked for decades to raise awareness. A key element in Dr. Libby Sublingual B-12 is the unique delivery system, “Sublingual” means under the tongue. Where the tablets dissolve and get the quickly into the bloodstream. This is crucial to the maximum absorption and maximum benefit. Sounded like a person that was an authority in his field of nutrients and health. WHO BETTER TO TAKE ADVICE FROM? Therefore, I tried it and 7 months later, I am still taking the Sublingual B-12. The best part is its works, and very affordable. I feel better than I have felt in years. I can now set listen, talk, watch T.V. or watch a movie with OUT falling to sleep. IT IS GREAT! Just would like to share this with, as many people as I can there is help. In addition, remember I said it was affordable. For approximately $30.00, you get 30 tablets, which is a 30-day supply in most cases. IF INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE VISIT www.trivita.com/13162243 or call me a real person at 740-366-3345. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Now this worries me cause I take 1.5mgs of folic acid a day. Never a dull moment. lol ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...eandHealth/home LESLIE BECK From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Read Bio | Latest Columns August 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM EDT If you take vitamin B supplements to guard against heart disease you are wasting your money, research published in today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests. A clinical trial involving 3,096 patients with established heart disease revealed the vitamins were ineffective against heart attack, death from heart disease and stroke. The notion that B vitamins ward off heart disease stems from the fact that three B vitamins - folic acid, B6 and B12 - lower blood homocysteine, an amino acid made by the body during normal metabolism. High homocysteine is thought to damage the lining of the arteries. Studies have demonstrated the ability of homocysteine to cause oxidative stress and inflammation, as well as to impair blood clotting and blood vessel function. The level of homocysteine in your bloodstream is influenced by diet and genetics. Folic acid, B6 and B12 break down homocysteine and prevent it from accumulating in the bloodstream. Numerous studies have shown that taking folic acid supplements, either alone or in combination with B6 and B12, lowers homocysteine levels. In today's study, researchers from Norway set out to determine whether lowering homocysteine could prevent further heart attacks and heart problems in people with coronary heart disease. Patients were assigned to receive a daily supplement of either folic acid plus vitamins B6 and B12; folic acid plus vitamin B12; vitamin B6 alone; or a placebo. The doses of vitamins used were 0.8 milligrams of folic acid, 0.4 milligrams of B12 and 40 milligrams of B6. Patients were monitored to determine the rates of all-cause death, stroke, heart attack and hospitalization for unstable angina among the four groups. (Unstable angina is severe chest pain that occurs when the heart becomes starved for oxygen.) After three years of follow-up, none of the B vitamin combinations lowered the risk of heart attack, stroke or death despite an overall 30-per-cent reduction in blood homocysteine levels. This isn't the first time the value of B vitamins for preventing or delaying heart problems has been challenged. Earlier this year, the women's antioxidant and folic acid cardiovascular study, a randomized controlled trial involving 5,442 women at high risk for heart disease, found that B vitamins did not lower the risk of cardiovascular events (such as heart attack, stroke and coronary artery bypass surgery) even though the women's homocysteine levels dropped significantly. The findings suggest that lowering homocysteine does not change the course of heart disease. Instead, elevated homocysteine may signal an increased risk of problems in people who already have heart disease. The effect of long-term folic acid supplementation on the risk of heart disease in healthy people is unknown. It is possible, however, that B vitamins help prevent stroke. In the study, there was a lower risk of suffering a stroke among B vitamin users, but this finding was not statistically significant, which means it could have been a chance finding. There is other evidence that folic acid guards against stroke. The mandatory addition of folic acid to certain foods (white flour, enriched pasta, enriched corn meal), implemented in Canada and the United States in 1998, has been linked with a pronounced decline in death from stroke in both countries. Fortification of food with folic acid was introduced to reduce the risk of neural tube birth defects in infants (when the brain and spinal cord fail to close properly during the early weeks of pregnancy.) Since it began, the rate of these defects has dropped 46 per cent in Canada. There are concerns that large doses of folic acid could do more harm than good. Last year, a trial of 1,021 men and women who had had precancerous polyps removed from the colon found that those who took a folic acid supplement (one milligram) got just as many new polyps as those who took placebo pills. People in the folic acid group also had higher rates of advanced tumours, although this finding was not statistically significant. In today's study, the risk of cancer was slightly higher in the group receiving folic acid, but again it was not statistically significant. Together, these findings raise the possibility folic acid may prevent early stages of cancer but could enhance the growth of established cancer cells. For this reason, if you have a history of colon cancer, or precancerous colon polyps, avoid taking high-dose folic acid supplements. While there's little evidence to warrant taking folic acid to protect from heart disease, it is important to increase your intake of folate from foods to help meet your recommended daily intake. (Folate refers to the B vitamin found naturally in foods; folic acid is the synthetic version added to vitamin pills and fortified foods.). Folate is needed to make DNA and red blood cells, support cell division and growth, and prevent neural tube defects. Women of childbearing age should take a multivitamin with folic acid. Adults and teenagers need 400 micrograms (0.4 mg) of folate each day. The recommended intake for children aged 1 to 3 is 150 micrograms; from 4 to 8 years, 200 micrograms; and 9 to 13 years, 300 micrograms. Good food sources include legumes, Brussels sprouts, cooked spinach, asparagus, artichokes, avocados, orange juice and enriched pasta. The safe upper limit for supplemental folic acid is 1,000 micrograms (one milligram) a day, unless directed otherwise by your physician. Taking high doses of folic acid can sometimes mask the presence of a vitamin B12 deficiency. If this condition isn't properly diagnosed, it may lead to irreversible nerve damage. Leslie Beck, a Toronto-based dietitian at the Medcan Clinic, Hello, my name is Roger Amore. I wanted to share my story, because I feel like their other like myself. Tired all the time and not for sure what to do. Well I am 53 years old and about 5 to 7 years ago. I started to notice that when I sat down for more than about 20 to 30 minute. It seem like I could not stay awake. It really start in Church, the wife would get so embarrassed. Because I could not stay, awake during Church. No matter what I tried, 10 hr sleep or 15 hr sleep, I could not stay awake! Then during the week after a day at work, kids an wife would want me sit down in the evening to watch a movie. Guess what that right I could not stay awake. It was becoming a real problem! Then one day about 7 to 8 months ago, I became unemployed. Therefore, I was really trying to fine away to make some extra money. Then I came across this article about Dr. Alfred Libby M.D, The inventor of TriVita Sublingual B-12, B-6 and Folic Acid. Dr. Libby a well know pioneer in nutrients and health. In addition, an associate of Linus Pauling Ph D. the two- time (Noble Prize Laureate and “Father of Vitamin C.’ Early in his career. Dr Libby discovered the dramatic health changes that B-12 could make, and worked for decades to raise awareness. A key element in Dr. Libby Sublingual B-12 is the unique delivery system, “Sublingual” means under the tongue. Where the tablets dissolve and get the quickly into the bloodstream. This is crucial to the maximum absorption and maximum benefit. Sounded like a person that was an authority in his field of nutrients and health. WHO BETTER TO TAKE ADVICE FROM? Therefore, I tried it and 7 months later, I am still taking the Sublingual B-12. The best part is its works, and very affordable. I feel better than I have felt in years. I can now set listen, talk, watch T.V. or watch a movie with OUT falling to sleep. IT IS GREAT! Just would like to share this with, as many people as I can there is help. In addition, remember I said it was affordable. For approximately $30.00, you get 30 tablets, which is a 30-day supply in most cases. IF INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE VISIT www.trivita.com/13162243 or call me a real person at 740-366-3345. 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Guest Human_* Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hey Roger!!!! NO. Even Sublingual B-12 is poorly absorbed by the body. Only 10% is actually absorbed. I have a friend who IS into all of the vitamin thing "The guy is a GENUIS; HE has been at it for 4 decades now". He knows the vitamins on a level that would put you, and every one in here to SHAME. Though my arguments with him are on the level of Alternative Medicine versus Traditional Medicine. Though this topic is on a very slippery slope because mixing alternates with traditional CAN have serious to deadly Consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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