Gore talks to Congress

[NelsonJacobsen]

I was wondering if anyone else was paying attention to the actually points that Vice President Gore ask the members of Congress to consider. I thought they has some thing up there and others going holy shist he is now offering legislation that we should have thought about and now we have to say we like what he is doing.

 

HA HA HA. is what I say and besides he is going to run so HA HA HA again..

 

[BigBlue]

Al Gore , hasn't gotten so much attention since he invented the Internet.

 

[BlingBling]

BigBlue,

I bet you are some overweight meathead that does not know how to spell p - o - t - a - t - o. I bet you want Rudy "Draft Dodger" Giuliani.

[Karl Rudder]

BigBlue,

I bet you are some overweight meathead that does not know how to spell p - o - t - a - t - o. I bet you want Rudy "Draft Dodger" Giuliani.

 

BlingBling,

 

Your psychic skills should be more constructively employed. I am sure many of us in the

DC community are looking forward to your announcing your providing your tutorial skills so that you could help many develop their spelling skills. Is that an element of your concern or were you just crying. I have had the misfortune of being able to witness your expressing much bigger tantrums on little issues before. Did you not know that the best vitamin to being a friend is B1?

Gore will not run for president. He is the overweight meathead who is serving the needs of the news media by allowing himself to be an element of their "reporting" for a couple of days.

"Oh the games people play now, every night and everyday now, never saying what they mean, never meaning what they say." My bet is you haven't been helped yet in coming to know that homo sapiens existing within silicon oxide domiciles should refrain from ejaculating geo-physical substances.

Edited March 23, 2007 by Karl Rudder

[BlingBling]

I am sure many of us in the DC community are looking forward to your announcing your providing your tutorial skills so that you could help many develop their spelling skills. Is that an element of your concern or were you just crying.

 

I am crying with laughter. And you missed the joke.

[Karl Rudder]

I am crying with laughter. And you missed the joke.

 

BlingBling,

 

Your right. I had read the previous message and had totally skipped over the big stupid face HA Ha.

I had read your response and had attached it to the wrong previous message. Please excuse the mistake.

[NelsonJacobsen]

Speaking of overweight

 

Anyone else noticed a certain non-politician looking a bit slimmer?

[Luke_Wilbur]

When things are going your way, food becomes less necessary. How is the campaigning going Nelson?

[Marty]

European circles who oppose the global warming scientific hoax and the murderous radical deindustrialization policies that flow from the hoax, are marshalling against Al Gore.

 

What are the considerations which actually govern the principal features of the Earth's cycles of alternate warming and cooling? What about the pattern of recent intensification of Solar radiation hitting the Earth? Does this year's early report from Denmark on the role of cosmic rays, answer the question, at least in significant part?

 

Or, what about the movement of population out of traditional family-farm agriculture and productive employment in industry, into the ruin of a so-called "post-industrial society," all of which post-1968 trends of change away from a science-driver, agro-industrial economy, have had pernicious effects on the environment which we manage and inhabit?

 

What about "Bio-Fuels," which are inherently energy-inefficient, and which will, if continued, cause a generations-long ecological disaster, and pro-genocidal food-crisis for our nation in particular, and the planet as whole?

 

What is the actual strategic motive for the continuing persistence of the promotion of the Kyoto hoax at this particular time?

 

Today's leading political classes, and most others, too, rarely show any sense of an historical process as being anything more than a kind of mechanistic-statistical system of percussive interactions, interactions occurring chiefly within the confines of the local time of a certain generation's hope of rising to political and related ascendancy. They are Sophists, who think in terms of trend-lines in mere opinions, not realities. Therefore, usually, their assessment of almost any situation of significance, as in climate forecasting, is tragically wrong-headed, and stubbornly so.

 

The great Classical poet Percy Bysshe Shelley captured the essence of this matter in his Ozymandias, whose title served as the name later deliciously bestowed on Al Gore by some of his schoolmates.

 

We are witnessing precisely such a kind of lurch toward a new Dark Age of global humanity today, in the surge of organized popularity for former Vice-President Al Gore's hoax, and for the cult of "Bio-Foolery" in general. The followers of the Pied Piper of Cardboard, Al Gore, are to be compared with the children of Hamelin who followed their cult-leader out of the town, into the land of nevermore. A population which, like those foolish children, no longer governs itself by a passion for truth, but, rather, mere "popular opinion," is a population which has, at least for the moment, lost its grip on the moral fitness to survive.

 

In practical terms, the term "science" has a varying meaning for practice, as our attention shifts from emphasis on non-living processes, to living processes and their products, and, after that, as we shift attention from emphasis on living processes in general, to human behavior and social processes in particular. This distinction, which has been traditional for known European science since ancient Greece, was rigorously defined through the work of Academician V.I. Vernadsky's experimentally premised notion of a universal principle of life, and his preliminary success in beginning the same approach to the matter of the distinction between what are merely living processes and human characteristics, and specifics of the social behavior associated with those latter characteristics.

 

Instead of measuring climate processes in terms of scientific values, measure the climate effects in terms of physical-scientific effects, per capita and per square kilometer.

 

Measure physical pollution by the society as a whole, including the functional role of basic economic and social, as much as physical infrastructure as a whole, as the source of the increase of productivity of the whole process as a whole, and, thus, define the specific courses of action which increase total productivity as a whole, by means which increase the average rate of increase of physical pollution of the entire population and entire area as a whole.

 

The typical forecaster today still clings to the folly of attempting to predict a future result as the consequence of a kinematic sequence of actions.

 

Without the massive investment in technologies of nuclear fission and thermonuclear fusion, there is no possibility of avoiding a foreseeable general collapse of human existence on this planet. It is through bringing new "rules of the game" into play, rather than acting on the game within the current rules of play, that progress in the human condition is feasible. There is no possibility that civilization could outlive the presently onrushing general economic breakdown of the present planetary system.

[Luke_Wilbur]

In practical terms, the term "science" has a varying meaning for practice, as our attention shifts from emphasis on non-living processes, to living processes and their products, and, after that, as we shift attention from emphasis on living processes in general, to human behavior and social processes in particular.

 

I sense a contradiction to your evolutionary term on "what is science." Here you put a value on the importance of historical anthropology.

 

Today's leading political classes, and most others, too, rarely show any sense of an historical process as being anything more than a kind of mechanistic-statistical system of percussive interactions.

 

You then undervalue the philosophy of science.

 

Instead of measuring climate processes in terms of scientific values, measure the climate effects in terms of physical-scientific effects, per capita and per square kilometer.

 

Climate models have long suggested that global warming could bring shifts in vegetation and storm patterns. Now, researchers are focusing on the human dimension of those changes. In my opinion, combining "nature" with "nurture" we come closer to one unified principle.

 

An increase in global temperature will put a strain on the socio-economic carrying capicity of the planet.

 

For example. Researchers are currently studying how the changing environment in Northern Canada will effect the health of Inuit by decreasing access to traditional foods from the land.

 

I think some definitions are in order for you to further this debate.

 

Climatology is the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time, and is a branch of the atmospheric sciences.

 

Climate - The average of weather over at least a 30-year period. Note that the climate taken over different periods of time (30 years, 1000 years) may be different. The old saying is climate is what we expect and weather is what we get.

 

Climate Change - A non-random change in climate that is measured over several decades or longer. The change may be due to natural or human-induced causes.

Climate Model - Mathematical model for quantitatively describing, simulating, and analyzing the interactions between the atmosphere and underlying surface (e.g., ocean, land, and ice).

 

Climate Outlook - A climate outlook gives probabilities that conditions, averaged over a specified period, will be below-normal, normal, or above-normal.

 

In addition we must look at the scientific research currently being done here in the United States.

 

NOAA warns of dangerous weather, charts our seas and skies, guides our use and protection of ocean and coastal resources, and conducts research to improve our understanding and stewardship of the environment which sustains us all.

 

NOAA's research, conducted through the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR), is the driving force behind NOAA environmental products and services that protect life and property and promote sustainable economic growth. Research, conducted by programs within NOAA and through collaborations outside NOAA, focuses on enhancing our understanding of environmental phenomena.

 

You should research the climate models of these research institutions:

 

Cooperative Institute for Atmospheric Sciences and Terrestrial Applications (CIASTA)

Las Vegas/Reno, NV--

 

CIASTA is a cooperative institute among NOAA and the University and Community College System of Nevada (UCCSN). CIASTA is administered by the Desert Research Institute on behalf of the UCCSN. CIASTA brings a formalized focus to a number of research projects and programs encompassing weather research, climate, air quality and terrestrial ecosystems studies related to global change and hydrology and water supply in the arid regions typical of the intermountain West. CIASTA supports university researchers, postdocs and students.

 

Cooperative Institute for Climate Applications and Research (CICAR)

Palisades, NY--

 

CICAR is a cooperative institute between NOAA and Columbia University, New York. CICAR research themes include the modeling, understanding, prediction and assessment of climate variability and change; development, collection, analysis and archiving of instrumental and paleoclimate data; and development of the application of climate variability and change prediction and assessment to provide information for decision makers and assess risk to water resources, agriculture, health, and policy. CICAR brings together scientists from NOAA Laboratories, in particular the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory in Princeton, New Jersey, and scientist of the Earth Institute at Columbia University, in particular the Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory.

 

Cooperative Institute for Climate and Ocean Research (CICOR)

Woods Hole, MA--

 

CICOR is a cooperative institute between NOAA and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. The research activities of CICOR will be organized around three themes: the coastal ocean and near-shore processes, the ocean's participation in climate and climate variability, and marine ecosystem processes analysis. These theme areas, each of which has significant implications for human society, are interrelated, and scientific progress will require collaborations by scientists within and between disciplines. In each case, progress will depend on a combination of fundamental process studies, the development and deployment of technological systems for sustained observation, and the development of predictive models that are based on an understanding of the underlying processes and that assimilate information from observational systems.

 

Cooperative Institute for Climate Science (CICS)

Princeton, NJ--

CICS is a cooperative institute between NOAA and Princeton University. Research is conducted within four themes, Earth System Studies, Biogeochemistry, Coastal Processes and Paloeclimate, in collaboration with NOAA's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory. CICS supports approximately 44 University researchers, postdocs and graduate students.

 

Cooperative Institute for Limnology and Ecosystems Research (CILER)

Ann Arbor, MI--

 

CILER is a cooperative institute between NOAA and the University of Michigan with formal links to Michigan State University and other universities in the Great Lakes Basin. CILER's research activities are organized around five research themes: climate and large-lake dynamics; coastal and nearshore processes; large-lake ecosystem structure and function; remote sensing of large lake and coastal ocean dynamics; and marine environmental engineering. The Institute supports research scientists, postdoctoral research fellows, research support staff, and students at the University of Michigan and other Great Lakes universities.

 

Cooperative Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Studies (CIMAS)

Miami, FL--

 

CIMAS is a cooperative institute between NOAA and the University of Miami's Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences. Research is conducted within three themes--Climate Variability, Fisheries Dynamics, and Coastal Ocean Ecosystem Processes--in collaboration with ERL and the National Marine Fisheries Service. CIMAS supports 45 university researchers, postdocs, graduate students, and staff.

 

Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies (CIMMS)

Norman, OK--

 

CIMMS is a cooperative institute between NOAA and the University of Oklahoma. Research fields include basic convective and mesoscale forecast improvements, and climatic effects of controls on mesoscale processes, socioeconomic effects of mesoscale weather systems and regional scale climate variations. The Institute collaborates with the National Severe Storms Lab, and supports the NWS modernization efforts in Norman. CIMMS supports ~130 university researchers, postdocs, students, and staff.

 

One of my teachers said to me, "LUKE ACCEPT NO DOGMA." It took me awhile to understand that truth.

[AmericanChick]

President George W. Bush is a better stuward of the 'environment than Al Gore.

 

Look over the descriptions of the following two houses and se if you can tell which belongs to an environmentalist:

 

House # 1

 

A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guesthouse all heated by gas. In one month alone this mansion consumes more energy than the average American house household in an ENTIRE YEAR! The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400 a month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or midwestern “snow belt,” either. It’s in the South.

 

House # 2

 

Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every “green” feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest, A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F) heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25 percent of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000-gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and shrubs native to the area blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape.

 

House # 1 – (20-room energy guzzling mansion) is outside of Nashville, Tennessee. It is the abode of that renowned “Global Warming” environmentalist and filmmaker, Al Gore.

 

House # 2 – (model eco-friendly house) is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. Also known as “the Texas White House,” it is the private residence of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.

 

So whose house is gentler on the environment?

 

Yet another story you WON’T hear on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and MSNBC or read bout in the New York Times or the Washington Post.

 

Indeed, for Mr. Gore (the bore), it’s truly “an inconvenient truth” – the title of his Oscar winning documentary on “Global Warming.”

 

For the record, “Global Warming” is caused by the sun’s flares every 1,500 years, not by human generated pollution, another myth or lie launched by this perpetrator of “Junk Science.”

[Luke_Wilbur]

For the record, "Global Warming" is caused by the sun's flares every 1,500 years, not by human generated pollution, another myth or lie launched by this perpetrator of "Junk Science."

Solar irradiance or Solar Radiation is the radiant energy emitted by the sun, particularly electromagnetic energy. About half of the radiation is in the visible short-wave part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

 

The observed global warming may be explained by increased solar activity, the present level of solar activity is historically high as determined by sunspot activity and other factors. Solar activity could affect climate either by variation in the sun's output or by an indirect effect on the amount of cloud formation.

 

In climate science, radiative forcing is defined as the difference between the incoming radiation energy and the outgoing radiation energy in a given climate system. A positive forcing (more incoming energy) tends to warm the system, while a negative forcing (more outgoing energy) tends to cool it.

 

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has has released its Summary for Policymakers.

 

The Record Changes in solar irradiance since 1750 are estimated to cause a radiative forcing of +0.12 [+0.06 to +0.30] W m-2, which is less than half the estimate given in the Third Assessment Report (TAR) issued in 2001. This indicates that only a minor fraction of the recent global warming can be explained by the variable Sun.

 

The understanding of anthropogenic warming and cooling influences on climate has improved since the TAR, leading to very high confidence7 that the globally averaged net effect of human activities since 1750 has been one of warming, with a radiative forcing of +1.6 [+0.6 to +2.4] W m-2.

 

The combined radiative forcing due to increases in carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide is +2.30[+2.07 to +2.53] W m-2, and its rate of increase during the industrial era is very likely to have been unprecedented in more than 10,000 years. The carbon dioxide radiative forcing increased by 20% from 1995 to 2005, the largest change for any decade in at least the last 200 years.

 

Anthropogenic contributions to aerosols (primarily sulphate, organic carbon, black carbon, nitrate and dust) together produce a cooling effect, with a total direct radiative forcing of -0.5 [-0.9 to -0.1] W m-2 and anindirect cloud albedo forcing of -0.7 [-1.8 to -0.3] W m-2. These forcings are now better understood than at the time of the TAR due to improved in situ, satellite and ground-based measurements and more comprehensive modelling, but remain the dominant uncertainty in radiative forcing. Aerosols also influence cloud lifetime and precipitation.

 

Significant anthropogenic contributions to radiative forcing come from several other sources. Tropospheric ozone changes due to emissions of ozone-forming chemicals (nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, and hydrocarbons) contribute +0.35 [+0.25 to +0.65] W m-2. The direct radiative forcing due to changes in halocarbons8 is +0.34 [+0.31 to +0.37] W m-2. Changes in surface albedo, due to land-cover changes and deposition of black carbon aerosols on snow, exert respective forcings of -0.2 [-0.4 to 0.0] and +0.1 [0.0 to +0.2] W m-2.